Monday, July 4, 2011

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  • Jimi_Hendrix
    11-21 10:49 AM
    Time: 3pm
    Conference Dial-In: (712) 432-3000
    Conference Bridge: 227974
    Topic for Discussion:
    � Organizing teams for meeting recently elected politicians
    � Create a presentation/script before meeting congressional representative�s office
    � Call the congressional person to organize a meeting
    � Possible opportunities to create a booth for signing up IV members

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  • venkygct
    09-11 08:44 PM
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  • eeezzz
    04-02 02:44 PM
    That�s right, no name calling and no country name calling. D.R.D owes us an apology.

    D.R.D ??

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  • pappu
    08-12 10:55 AM
    Senate Passage of Border Security Legislation

    August 12, 2010

    Today, I come to the floor to seek unanimous consent to pass a smart, tough, and effective $600 million bill that will significantly enhance the security and integrity of our nation’s southern border—which currently lacks the resources needed to fully combat the drug smugglers, gun-runners, human-traffickers, money launderers and other organized criminals that seek to do harm to innocent Americans along our border….

    The best part of this border package, Mr. President, is that it is fully paid for and does not increase the deficit by a single penny. In actuality, the Congressional Budget Office has determined that this bill will yield a direct savings to taxpayers of $50 million….

    The emergency border funds we are passing today are fully paid for by assessing fees on certain types of companies who hire foreign workers using certain types of visas in a way that Congress did not intend. I want to take a moment to explain exactly what we are doing in this bill a little further because I want everyone to clearly understand how these offsets are designed.

    In 1990, Congress realized that the world was changing rapidly and that technological innovations like the internet were creating a high demand in the United States for high-tech workers to create new technologies and products. Consequently, Congress created the H-1B visa program to allow U.S. employers to hire foreign tech workers in special circumstances when they could not find an American citizen who was qualified for the job.

    Many of the companies that use this program today are using the program in the exact way Congress intended. That is, these companies (like Microsoft, IBM, and Intel) are hiring bright foreign students educated in our American universities to work in the U.S. for 6 or 7 years to invent new product lines and technologies so that Microsoft, IBM, and Intel can sell more products to the American public. Then—at the expiration of the H-1B visa period—these companies apply for these talented workers to earn green cards and stay with the company.

    When the H-1B visa program is used in this manner, it is a good program for everyone involved. It is good for the company. It is good for the worker. And it is good for the American people who benefit from the products and jobs created by the innovation of the H-1B visa holder.

    Every day, companies like Oracle, Cisco, Apple and others use the H-1B visa program in the exact way I have just described—and their use of the program has greatly benefitted this country.

    But recently, some companies have decided to exploit an unintended loophole in the H-1B visa program to use the program in a manner that many in Congress, including myself, do not believe is consistent with the program’s intent.

    Rather than being a company that makes something, and simply needs to bring in a talented foreign worker to help innovate and create new products and technologies—these other companies are essentially creating “multinational temp agencies” that were never contemplated when the H-1B program was created.

    The business model of these newer companies is not to make any new products or technologies like Microsoft or Apple does. Instead, their business model is to bring foreign tech workers into the United States who are willing to accept less pay than their American counterparts, place these workers into other companies in exchange for a “consulting fee,” and transfer these workers from company to company in order to maximize profits from placement fees. In other words, these companies are petitioning for foreign workers simply to then turn around and provide these same workers to other companies who need cheap labor for various short term projects.

    Don’t take my word for it. If you look at the marketing materials of some of the companies that fall within the scope covered by today’s legislation, their materials boast about their “outsourcing expertise” and say that their advantage is their ability to conduct what they call “labor arbitrage” which is—in their own words—“transferring work functions to a lower cost environment for increased savings.”

    The business model used by these companies within the United States is creating three major negative side effects. First, it is ruining the reputation of the H-1B program, which is overwhelmingly used by good actors for beneficial purposes. Second, according to the Economic Policy institute, it is lowering the wages for American tech workers already in the marketplace. Third, it is also discouraging many of our smartest students from entering the technology industry in the first place. Students can see that paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for advanced schooling is not worth the cost when the market is being flooded with foreign temporary workers willing to do tech-work for far less pay because their foreign education was much cheaper and they intend to move back home when their visa expires to a country where the cost of living is far less expensive.

    This type of use of the H-1B visa program will be addressed as part of comprehensive immigration reform and will likely be dramatically restricted. We will be reforming the legal immigration system to encourage the world’s best and brightest individuals to come to the United States and create the new technologies and businesses that will employ countless American workers, but will discourage businesses from using our immigration laws as a means to obtain temporary and less-expensive foreign labor to replace capable American workers.

    Nevertheless, I do wish to clarify a previous mischaracterization of these firms, where I labeled them as “chop shops.” That statement was incorrect, and I wish to acknowledge that. In the tech industry, these firms are sometimes known as “body shops” and that’s what I should have said.

    While I strongly oppose the manner in which these firms are using the H-1B visa to accomplish objectives that Congress never intended, it would be unfortunate if anyone concluded from my remarks that these firms are engaging in illegal behavior.

    But I also want to make clear that the purpose of this fee is not to target businesses from any particular country. Many news articles have reported that the only companies that will be affected by this fee are companies based in India and that, ipso facto, the purpose of this legislation must be to target Indian IT companies.

    Well, it is simply untrue that the purpose of this legislation is to target Indian companies. We are simply raising fees for businesses who use the H-1B visa to do things that are contrary to the program’s original intent.

    Visa fees will only increase for companies with more than 50 workers who continue to employ more than 50 percent of their employees through the H-1B program. Congress does not want the H-1B visa program to be a vehicle for creating multinational temp agencies where workers do not know what projects they will be working on—or what cities they will be working in—when they enter the country.

    The fee is based solely upon the business model of the company, not the location of the company.

    If you are using the H-1B visa to innovate new products and technologies for your own company to sell, that is a good thing regardless of whether the company was originally founded in India, Ireland, or Indiana.

    But if you are using the H-1B visa to run a glorified international temp agency for tech workers in contravention of the spirit of the program, I and my colleagues believe that you should have to pay a higher fee to ensure that American workers are not losing their jobs because of unintended uses of the visa program that were never contemplated when the program was created.

    This belief is consistent regardless of whether the company using these staffing practices was founded in Bangalore, Beijing, or Boston.

    Raising the fees for companies hiring more than 50 percent of their workforce through foreign visas will accomplish two important goals. First, it will provide the necessary funds to secure our border without raising taxes or adding to the deficit. Second, it will level the playing field for American workers so that they do not lose out on good jobs here in America because it is cheaper to bring in a foreign worker rather than hire an American worker.

    Let me tell you what objective folks around the world are saying about the impact of this fee increase. In an August 6, 2010, Wall Street Journal article, Avinash Vashistha—the CEO of a Bangalore based off-shoring advisory consulting firm—told the Journal that the new fee in this bill “would accelerate Indian firms’ plans to hire more American-born workers in the U.S.” What’s wrong with that? In an August 7, 2010 Economic Times Article, Jeya Kumar, a CEO of a top IT company, said that this bill would “erode cost arbitrage and cause a change in the operational model of Indian offshore providers.”

    The leaders of this business model are agreeing that our bill will make it more expensive to bring in foreign tech workers to compete with American tech workers for jobs here in America. That means these companies are going to start having to hire U.S. tech workers again.

    So Mr. President, this bill is not only a responsible border security bill, it has the dual advantage of creating more high-paying American jobs.

    Finally, Mr. President, I want to be clear about one other thing. Even though passing this bill will secure our border, I again say that the only way to fully restore the rule of law to our entire immigration system is by passing comprehensive immigration reform….

    The urgency for immigration reform cannot be overstated because it is so overdue. The time for excuses is now over, it is now time to get to work.


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  • ind_game
    05-15 09:02 PM
    Maybe someone that has had to go through this can respond.

    When you are working for a large(r) corporation, where all fees (including EAD/AP) are paid for by the company, who pays for the MTR?

    I was under the impression that the employer pays for the filing, attorney, etc. fees, am I wrong?

    I changed jobs from a desi company to a large corporation using AC 21.
    I had to file two MTRs. I have spent everything from my pocket for the two MTRs.

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  • buddyinus
    08-11 01:27 PM
    A freind of mine called. He did NOT hear such thing from NSC. He even refefrenced this discussion

    Pls dont believe SriKondoji. Hez known for spreading false rumours and making lame comments thus misleading ppl. He did the same thing on the July 2 Tracker and was booted out. Hence he was hiding for over a week and now is saying that he was out on a business trip :D. Hez full of lies...Admins, Moderators pls delete this thread as the "Monday" mentioned in the title has gone by and we dont need frauds still re assuring ppl about rumours - Thanx in advance.


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  • bigboy007
    06-02 03:21 PM
    But all this applies to New cases right [dual intent option ]???? i still wish its after oct 2008 but as it reads it May 15 2007.

    BTw where does it say H1B is not dual intent ?

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  • ashutrip
    06-16 06:44 PM
    If you are stuck at Atlanta PERM backlog center , please email your case number and explain them that your application has been pending for a LONG time and request them to help us get out of this grave situation. Also, please post on this thread after you have sent an email so that others can be motivated to do the same. We need to send as many emails as possible to get any positive feedback. I know that DOL mentioned that they will start processing our applications soon, but we need to keep up the pressure from our end so that it has some positive effect.

    I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...

    Here is the info :
    email :
    Phone : 404-893-0101

    Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
    what is your PD?


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  • vvicky72
    07-11 10:07 AM
    I am hoping this is not a typo from the mumbai consulate and USCIS visa bulletin will reflect the same.

    My priority date is April 06. Does this mean that there is a chance for me to get the GC now?

    How much time does it usually take for USCIS to approve the application after the priority date is current in the bulletin?

    And lastly, what are the chances of USCIS staying on this date for EB2-I and not retrogressing it back to some old date (after it issues 1 yr EAD to everyone !!)?

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  • newuser
    09-12 10:07 AM
    I doubt how effective a letter campaign would be.

    We did letter campaign's couple of times and it didn't bring any coverage or change.

    I still believe a clock (backward or distorted) is a good idea.

    I agree that calculator /flower campaign can fail. But poster (actually pamphlet) and letter campaign will cost only 41 cents stamp from us.


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  • singhsa3
    07-20 12:37 PM
    Not really, The PD will be stuck sometime in 02 or 03. Thus, unless there are some changes in law, we are looking at 5-7 years wait.
    Also, I am not fabricating 750,000 number. This is the anticpated applicants, per Matthew Oh.
    750,000 applications ? Does that mean the PD will be 01 Jan 1900 after October ? I think you grossly overestimated the number of applications . If the GC quota is 9800 for India then to process 750,00 applications ( most of them will be India I am sure ) will take like 20 years . Thats impossible man !!!

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  • sparky_jones
    03-07 11:41 AM
    Well, he is saying differently here. What the hell?

    Whatever Ron "Gotcha!!", and Mathew "Oh!!" say should always be taken with a pinch of salt. :)


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  • boom
    05-19 08:21 PM
    Congrates Ind_game,

    You deserved it.Your continued and vigrous effort made the difference.

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  • babu123
    09-09 08:22 PM

    I work at NPR and joined recently. I am going to work with my manager next week and convince them to get coverage for our rally.


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  • JunRN
    10-05 01:24 AM
    All unrelated amendment were dropped. Do not expect anything about immigration attached to the Appropriations Bill.

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  • susie
    07-08 11:12 PM

    Expatsvoice has written is own draft legislation to amend the CSPA, as it is badly written, confusing to many including attorneys and Geoff Gorsky, head of VO and does not protect all children from aging out

    This legislation has been passed from Dave Weldons office to his legislators in Washington, we are awaiting to hear the outcome

    Also expats voice are being interviewed for a 6 week radio program on all problems relating to US immigration. will try and update here when I get any news


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  • chanduv23
    04-30 02:26 PM
    It is 2.25 pm and I still can't access the webcast. It was working fine 1h ago or so...

    I am not getting audio but able to see

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  • pointlesswait
    09-08 11:59 AM
    you will be better off trying one of the nationalized banks....PVT banks are all jazz...
    I have a NRI HL from vijaya bank..
    HDFC is good...
    ICICI..<--not a big fan!

    I'm looking for homeloan options in India. Which bank would be good to apply for home loans.
    Was thinking about ICICI bank but got scared after going through the other thread about how ICICI bank is into stealing.
    I would appreciate it if anyone can give me few suggestions on this.

    Thank you.

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  • arnab221
    06-20 10:43 AM
    I was wondering which center my PERM app will go? Atlanta or Chicago? My co is detroit based. I am just filing now, so if it goes to chicago, there is a chance that I can file my I-140 before 1st October deadline (assuming the new CIR becomes law) .

    any clues?


    Detroit = Michigan --> Chicago.

    CIR will not pass. Relax !! Not worth losing your sleep over the joke that is CIR .

    07-20 12:23 AM
    Donated one time $100 ...

    Just now signed up for $50 a month recurring contribution ...

    Thanks to IV for all great work.

    03-17 10:04 PM
    Well,If you think that it was a cheap attempt, then i belive you need tutoring in english first, i would have appreciated if you would have read the full documents first, if you are not in the same boat as others doesnot means that others are not, there are still many H1 holders whose spouse doesnot have a SSN and only ITIN, and i am not over or below quoting the statement made by IRS.

    Please think twice before issuing any statements.

    P.S- Thanks for Pointing that Title of a Thread is for writing autobiographies, I will keep that in mind,when you are around. :-)

    A very cheap attempt at sensationalism, if that's what your intention was. But if you really are clueless about this issue, then here are the facts:

    There are several thousands of H-1Bs and GC aspirants who have SSNs for themselves and their spouses. This stimulus package will give rebates to these thousands so long as their AGI allows for it. Also, all H-1Bs are eligible for their rebate since they would have SSNs. It is only when their non-working spouse (H-4) does not have a SSN that the H-1B holder becomes ineligible.

    Thus, the title of your thread is misleading. Change the title to "No Stimulus Package to H-1Bs whose spouses do not have SSNs". And again, this is not targetting H-1Bs or GC aspirants. Any US resident without a SSN is ineligible for the stimulus package.


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